Psychological Safety and Democratizing Outdoor Access with Sally Steele of Outdoorithm

Scroll through dozens of outdoor brand websites and you'll read the same sentences: Everyone belongs outside. Nature doesn't discriminate. All are welcome here. Those words are free to say. The actual work, the kind that changes who shows up at a trailhead or a campground, costs something those sentences don't: money, data, and a willingness to look at what's actually kept people out.

This episode's guest is Sally Steele, and this conversation goes straight at what breaks a family's connection to land in the first place, and what it takes to build it back. Sally Steele is a tech founder, nonprofit executive, and ordained minister. She's the co-founder and CEO of Outdoorithm, a platform that makes it easy to find the right campground for your family, and of Outdoorithm Collective, a nonprofit that brings underrepresented families onto public lands for rest, nourishment, movement, and community. A 2024 REI Path Ahead Ventures Embark Fellow, she lives in Oakland, California, with her husband Justin and their four daughters.

Sally and Angie talked about:

  • Finding her family's name on the Wall of Names at the Equal Justice Initiative's Freedom Monument Sculpture Park

  • How slavery, then sharecropping, disrupted her family's relationship to land for generations

  • Growing up without any exposure to national parks or outdoor recreation

  • The barriers to belonging outdoors: logistics, the cost of gear, and physical and psychological safety

  • Why "will I be physically safe" and "do I belong here" are two different, equally real questions

  • The unspoken hierarchy of outdoor activities, and why hunting and fishing get left out of it

  • Scarcity mentality, geotagging, and the difference between gatekeeping and entitlement

  • How a conversation on the drive home from Yosemite became the idea for Outdoorithm

  • Building a "Community Vibe Score" for campgrounds, modeled on the Negro Motorist Green Book

  • Outdoorithm Collective's free family camping trips, and the five mantras that anchor them: camp as it comes, leave anyway, nobody solos, dirt don't hurt, and take up space

  • Why cultivating belonging on public lands is part of what protects them

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